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1 And we'll go to the web page in a minute, but for now, I'll just show it to you.
2 If you don't have it yet, it's called A Course in Phonetics by Peter Latifogid and revised by Keith Johnson.
3 Peter Latifogid was certainly one of the greatest
4 phoneticians who ever lived.
5 And he was not only that, he was probably one of the very
6 greatest teachers of phonetics who ever lived.
7 He died in 2006.
8 He came to Taiwan at least once, probably more times. I saw him once in Taiwan.
9 And when you use the book, you will find out
10 why we're so crazy about it.
11 I mean, how many people really love a textbook?
12 But in this class, and we've taught it for over 10 years now,
13 the students end up really liking this textbook
14 and also the other one that we'll use second semester
15 if you're back.
16 So Peter Latifogid is really the master
17 as far as I'm concerned.
18 This is, as far as I've heard,
19 is the best selling linguistic text in the States.
20 The best selling.
21 However, in the US, it costs over 100 US dollars.
22 You paid only about 490, is that right?
23 Taiwan dollars. Well, why is it so expensive? It doesn't look like it should
24 be so expensive, right? Can you figure out why they make it so expensive?
25 It's a sure thing. It's so popular. They can get a lot of money from it, so they
26 do. Other books don't make a lot of money from it, so they do.
27 Other books don't make a lot of money, so they make up for it with this book.
28 And what's happened is, because of this, some teachers no longer use this book
29 because it's too expensive.
30 So never mind all that. We don't have that problem here.
31 This is the International Edition, which they sell for a reasonable price.
32 It's well worth the cost here. So every Monday, you hand in your notes
33 from the previous week.
34 Got it?
35 And your notes include not only things
36 about phonetics from the textbook,
37 extra things that I tell you, but in addition,
38 you're going to be reading from the textbook aloud.
39 The camera will focus on you when you do it, and you will make mistakes. How does it feel when you make a mistake? Does it
40 feel wonderful? It feels pretty lousy. We humans are pretty afraid of making
41 mistakes, is that right? But you're going to need to have a new view of mistakes
42 as gifts.
43 These are precious gifts.
44 Because when I first started teaching way back in 1990
45 at Taida, I thought I was OK.
46 I'd studied linguistics and knew some Chinese and so forth.
47 I thought I knew what I was doing.
48 But my students were speaking a version of English
49 that I could usually understand, but it
50 was very different from mine. And I couldn usually understand, but it was very different from mine.
51 And I couldn't really understand why it was so different,
52 how it was so different, until I examined it closely.
53 I listened to many, many students speaking English.
54 Eventually, I did a project with the Guo Ke Hui,
55 and we recorded over 200 people speaking Tai Shi English.
56 Yeah, you have your own dialect.
57 This is a very special dialect of English, Tai Chi English.
58 And so I'm still working on the project now.
59 I'll write a book on it.
60 I hope to finish it in another year or two.
61 There's a very special kind of English called Tai Chi English,
62 Taiwan style English.
63 And you think, well, I'm very proud of that.
64 There's Taiwanese English. Now you think, well, I'm very proud of that. There's Taiwanese English.
65 Now, in Guangdong.
66 The thing is, accents are not a problem
67 if they are understandable.
68 If they are not so understandable, it's a problem.
69 Now, I want you to think of a foreigner who
70 speaks kind of weird Chinese.
71 At first, you think it's cute.
72 You say, ah, ni hao li hai.
73 Ni jiang de bi zhong wen hai geng hao e.
74 But when they, when they start saying, wo shi mei guo ren,
75 and they keep on talking like that, your ears get a little tired of it.
76 You don't always understand because there's so many homophones in Chinese.
77 So, think of how you feel. You think the person is maybe not so smart.
78 You are less competitive if you have a strong accent.
79 And there's also the matter of power.
80 Now, China is getting more powerful.
81 Everybody's noticed, right?
82 So maybe Chinese-style English will get more and more popular,
83 too.
84 I don't know.
85 It hasn't happened yet.
86 We still have a problem understanding Chinese English
87 and Taiwan English.
88 When your listener gets really tired, I'll give you an example.
89 Do you know anybody who's very old who comes from mainland China?
90 Nianji hen da.
91 And their Mandarin has a very, very strong accent.
92 Xiangyin hen zhou.
93 After they talk to you for 20 minutes,
94 Ni hao, ni hao, houo zhou bu jian, ah,
95 what do you, okay, can you understand them?
96 You can understand them, but after 20 minutes
97 talking to this person, how do you feel?
98 You feel very tired, is that right?
99 That's how people feel listening to Taiwan English.
100 We have to try very hard to guess what you mean.
101 And after 20 minutes, we're exhausted.
102 So the next time we see you, do you think we're going to be really excited and want to talk?
103 No, because it tires us out too much.
104 Now, there are many reasons for needing a good accent, and this is really one of them.
105 It's for your listener.
106 To make your listener comfortable, to make things easy for your listener,
107 and then they want to talk with you, it's good for everybody. Now we
108 should be more tolerant of people with an accent, that is true, but we cannot
109 teach all the listeners in the world. We can however try to help the speakers do
110 a better job. That's what we want to do in this class, in addition to learning
111 the theory of phonetics as well. So pronunciation correction is a big thing. What I said about power, it really depends on how
112 powerful and how popular your version is. So for example, if you hear a Frenchman
113 speaking, do you think it is very charming? Some people think it's very
114 charming and that's because French has always been very prestigious in English culture.
115 I shouldn't say always, since at least many centuries, French has been very, very prestigious in English.
116 We admire the French just because they are so sophisticated and charming, so we don't mind their accent, we think it's cute.
117 But before a people reaches that level of prestige,
118 their accent is simply hard to understand.
119 I had an experience in class once that was kind of funny.
120 I've lived in Taiwan so long, it's over 20 years,
121 and I asked the students what they did over winter vacation,
122 and one student said, TV Gans.
123 Did you all understand?
124 She said, TV Gens. Did you all understand? She said TV Gens.
125 Some of you understand it because you speak Taiwan English.
126 I asked at a phonology conference a few years ago,
127 it was full of native speakers of English,
128 not one person could understand it.
129 Nobody understood it.
130 And we just kept laughing and finally they said,
131 well tell us, what is it, what is it? It was TV games. TV games. A lot of you understood it. TV games.
132 There was a problem with stress. There was no final M. So your listener is not
133 just giving you a hard time. They really don't understand. And when they don't
134 understand, their patience will wear thin. Okay, so this is just a little talk
135 about the importance of pronunciation.
136 If you think that there's no point
137 in being very, very picky about pronunciation,
138 you're in the wrong class.
139 You probably will have to try something else.
140 Here is my website, and it's very easy to find.
141 All you have to do is type in Karen Zhong,
142 or Shi Jia Ling will work just as well.
143 But it's not Shi Jia Ling,
144 it's Ling, n n,
145 you have to be careful.
146 Wang zi pang xie yu pang shuang mu ling.
147 Alright, these are for all of my classes.
148 This is the one that we need for this class,
149 Introduction to Phonetics 1.
150 And we'll have a look at the index there.
151 We're going to start now with one overview
152 of Introduction to Phonetics page 1. Most of the information you need to know to get going in this class is on that page.
153 We need a standard version of English for English education,
154 and in Taiwan they decided in the 1960s it was going to be American English.
155 We will call it GA General American or SAE Standard American English.
156 Now, you will get a lot General American, or SAE Standard American English.
157 Now, you will get a lot of people scoffing that
158 and saying that there is no such thing as Standard English,
159 or Standard any language.
160 That's true to a certain extent, but on the other hand,
161 there is a version with certain features
162 that we all pretty much agree on can be called
163 Standard in American English.
164 It's mainly based on Midwestern English,
165 starting from, say, Ohio and Indiana and going west.
166 Pretty much most of that part of the country
167 speaks what we would call general American
168 or standard English.
169 The biggest differences in pronunciation and dialect
170 come in different parts of the country.
171 All right, we're going to start our participation now in the class.
@FishC_GPT 请翻译以下内容
1 And we'll go to the web page in a minute, but for now, I'll just show it to you.
2 If you don't have it yet, it's called A Course in Phonetics by Peter Latifogid and revised by Keith Johnson.
3 Peter Latifogid was certainly one of the greatest
4 phoneticians who ever lived.
5 And he was not only that, he was probably one of the very
6 greatest teachers of phonetics who ever lived.
7 He died in 2006.
8 He came to Taiwan at least once, probably more times. I saw him once in Taiwan.
9 And when you use the book, you will find out
10 why we're so crazy about it.
11 I mean, how many people really love a textbook?
12 But in this class, and we've taught it for over 10 years now,
13 the students end up really liking this textbook
14 and also the other one that we'll use second semester
15 if you're back.
16 So Peter Latifogid is really the master
17 as far as I'm concerned.
18 This is, as far as I've heard,
19 is the best selling linguistic text in the States.
20 The best selling.
21 However, in the US, it costs over 100 US dollars.
22 You paid only about 490, is that right?
23 Taiwan dollars. Well, why is it so expensive? It doesn't look like it should
24 be so expensive, right? Can you figure out why they make it so expensive?
25 It's a sure thing. It's so popular. They can get a lot of money from it, so they
26 do. Other books don't make a lot of money from it, so they do.
27 Other books don't make a lot of money, so they make up for it with this book.
28 And what's happened is, because of this, some teachers no longer use this book
29 because it's too expensive.
30 So never mind all that. We don't have that problem here.
31 This is the International Edition, which they sell for a reasonable price.
32 It's well worth the cost here. So every Monday, you hand in your notes
33 from the previous week.
34 Got it?
35 And your notes include not only things
36 about phonetics from the textbook,
37 extra things that I tell you, but in addition,
38 you're going to be reading from the textbook aloud.
39 The camera will focus on you when you do it, and you will make mistakes. How does it feel when you make a mistake? Does it
40 feel wonderful? It feels pretty lousy. We humans are pretty afraid of making
41 mistakes, is that right? But you're going to need to have a new view of mistakes
42 as gifts.
43 These are precious gifts.
44 Because when I first started teaching way back in 1990
45 at Taida, I thought I was OK.
46 I'd studied linguistics and knew some Chinese and so forth.
47 I thought I knew what I was doing.
48 But my students were speaking a version of English
49 that I could usually understand, but it
50 was very different from mine. And I couldn usually understand, but it was very different from mine.
51 And I couldn't really understand why it was so different,
52 how it was so different, until I examined it closely.
53 I listened to many, many students speaking English.
54 Eventually, I did a project with the Guo Ke Hui,
55 and we recorded over 200 people speaking Tai Shi English.
56 Yeah, you have your own dialect.
57 This is a very special dialect of English, Tai Chi English.
58 And so I'm still working on the project now.
59 I'll write a book on it.
60 I hope to finish it in another year or two.
61 There's a very special kind of English called Tai Chi English,
62 Taiwan style English.
63 And you think, well, I'm very proud of that.
64 There's Taiwanese English. Now you think, well, I'm very proud of that. There's Taiwanese English.
65 Now, in Guangdong.
66 The thing is, accents are not a problem
67 if they are understandable.
68 If they are not so understandable, it's a problem.
69 Now, I want you to think of a foreigner who
70 speaks kind of weird Chinese.
71 At first, you think it's cute.
72 You say, ah, ni hao li hai.
73 Ni jiang de bi zhong wen hai geng hao e.
74 But when they, when they start saying, wo shi mei guo ren,
75 and they keep on talking like that, your ears get a little tired of it.
76 You don't always understand because there's so many homophones in Chinese.
77 So, think of how you feel. You think the person is maybe not so smart.
78 You are less competitive if you have a strong accent.
79 And there's also the matter of power.
80 Now, China is getting more powerful.
81 Everybody's noticed, right?
82 So maybe Chinese-style English will get more and more popular,
83 too.
84 I don't know.
85 It hasn't happened yet.
86 We still have a problem understanding Chinese English
87 and Taiwan English.
88 When your listener gets really tired, I'll give you an example.
89 Do you know anybody who's very old who comes from mainland China?
90 Nianji hen da.
91 And their Mandarin has a very, very strong accent.
92 Xiangyin hen zhou.
93 After they talk to you for 20 minutes,
94 Ni hao, ni hao, houo zhou bu jian, ah,
95 what do you, okay, can you understand them?
96 You can understand them, but after 20 minutes
97 talking to this person, how do you feel?
98 You feel very tired, is that right?
99 That's how people feel listening to Taiwan English.
100 We have to try very hard to guess what you mean.
101 And after 20 minutes, we're exhausted.
102 So the next time we see you, do you think we're going to be really excited and want to talk?
103 No, because it tires us out too much.
104 Now, there are many reasons for needing a good accent, and this is really one of them.
105 It's for your listener.
106 To make your listener comfortable, to make things easy for your listener,
107 and then they want to talk with you, it's good for everybody. Now we
108 should be more tolerant of people with an accent, that is true, but we cannot
109 teach all the listeners in the world. We can however try to help the speakers do
110 a better job. That's what we want to do in this class, in addition to learning
111 the theory of phonetics as well. So pronunciation correction is a big thing. What I said about power, it really depends on how
112 powerful and how popular your version is. So for example, if you hear a Frenchman
113 speaking, do you think it is very charming? Some people think it's very
114 charming and that's because French has always been very prestigious in English culture.
115 I shouldn't say always, since at least many centuries, French has been very, very prestigious in English.
116 We admire the French just because they are so sophisticated and charming, so we don't mind their accent, we think it's cute.
117 But before a people reaches that level of prestige,
118 their accent is simply hard to understand.
119 I had an experience in class once that was kind of funny.
120 I've lived in Taiwan so long, it's over 20 years,
121 and I asked the students what they did over winter vacation,
122 and one student said, TV Gans.
123 Did you all understand?
124 She said, TV Gens. Did you all understand? She said TV Gens.
125 Some of you understand it because you speak Taiwan English.
126 I asked at a phonology conference a few years ago,
127 it was full of native speakers of English,
128 not one person could understand it.
129 Nobody understood it.
130 And we just kept laughing and finally they said,
131 well tell us, what is it, what is it? It was TV games. TV games. A lot of you understood it. TV games.
132 There was a problem with stress. There was no final M. So your listener is not
133 just giving you a hard time. They really don't understand. And when they don't
134 understand, their patience will wear thin. Okay, so this is just a little talk
135 about the importance of pronunciation.
136 If you think that there's no point
137 in being very, very picky about pronunciation,
138 you're in the wrong class.
139 You probably will have to try something else.
140 Here is my website, and it's very easy to find.
141 All you have to do is type in Karen Zhong,
142 or Shi Jia Ling will work just as well.
143 But it's not Shi Jia Ling,
144 it's Ling, n n,
145 you have to be careful.
146 Wang zi pang xie yu pang shuang mu ling.
147 Alright, these are for all of my classes.
148 This is the one that we need for this class,
149 Introduction to Phonetics 1.
150 And we'll have a look at the index there.
151 We're going to start now with one overview
152 of Introduction to Phonetics page 1. Most of the information you need to know to get going in this class is on that page.
153 We need a standard version of English for English education,
154 and in Taiwan they decided in the 1960s it was going to be American English.
155 We will call it GA General American or SAE Standard American English.
156 Now, you will get a lot General American, or SAE Standard American English.
157 Now, you will get a lot of people scoffing that
158 and saying that there is no such thing as Standard English,
159 or Standard any language.
160 That's true to a certain extent, but on the other hand,
161 there is a version with certain features
162 that we all pretty much agree on can be called
163 Standard in American English.
164 It's mainly based on Midwestern English,
165 starting from, say, Ohio and Indiana and going west.
166 Pretty much most of that part of the country
167 speaks what we would call general American
168 or standard English.
169 The biggest differences in pronunciation and dialect
170 come in different parts of the country.
171 All right, we're going to start our participation now in the class. @FishC_GPT tommyyu 发表于 2023-12-02 11:32
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请翻译以下内容
1 And we'll go to the web page in a minute, but for now, I'll just show it to you.
2 If you don't have it yet, it's called A Course in Phonetics by Peter Latifogid and revised by Keith Johnson.
3 Peter Latifogid was certainly one of the greatest
4 phoneticians who ever lived.
5 And he was not only that, he was probably one of the very
6 greatest teachers of phonetics who ever lived.
7 He died in 2006.
8 He came to Taiwan at least once, probably more times. I saw him once in Taiwan.
9 And when you use the book, you will find out
10 why we're so crazy about it.
11 I mean, how many people really love a textbook?
12 But in this class, and we've taught it for over 10 years now,
13 the students end up really liking this textbook
14 and also the other one that we'll use second semester
15 if you're back.
16 So Peter Latifogid is really the master
17 as far as I'm concerned.
18 This is, as far as I've heard,
19 is the best selling linguistic text in the States.
20 The best selling.
21 However, in the US, it costs over 100 US dollars.
22 You paid only about 490, is that right?
23 Taiwan dollars. Well, why is it so expensive? It doesn't look like it should
24 be so expensive, right? Can you figure out why they make it so expensive?
25 It's a sure thing. It's so popular. They can get a lot of money from it, so they
26 do. Other books don't make a lot of money from it, so they do.
27 Other books don't make a lot of money, so they make up for it with this book.
28 And what's happened is, because of this, some teachers no longer use this book
29 because it's too expensive.
30 So never mind all that. We don't have that problem here.
31 This is the International Edition, which they sell for a reasonable price.
32 It's well worth the cost here. So every Monday, you hand in your notes
33 from the previous week.
34 Got it?
35 And your notes include not only things
36 about phonetics from the textbook,
37 extra things that I tell you, but in addition,
38 you're going to be reading from the textbook aloud.
39 The camera will focus on you when you do it, and you will make mistakes. How does it feel when you make a mistake? Does it
40 feel wonderful? It feels pretty lousy. We humans are pretty afraid of making
41 mistakes, is that right? But you're going to need to have a new view of mistakes
42 as gifts.
43 These are precious gifts.
44 Because when I first started teaching way back in 1990
45 at Taida, I thought I was OK.
46 I'd studied linguistics and knew some Chinese and so forth.
47 I thought I knew what I was doing.
48 But my students were speaking a version of English
49 that I could usually understand, but it
50 was very different from mine. And I couldn usually understand, but it was very different from mine.
51 And I couldn't really understand why it was so different,
52 how it was so different, until I examined it closely.
53 I listened to many, many students speaking English.
54 Eventually, I did a project with the Guo Ke Hui,
55 and we recorded over 200 people speaking Tai Shi English.
56 Yeah, you have your own dialect.
57 This is a very special dialect of English, Tai Chi English.
58 And so I'm still working on the project now.
59 I'll write a book on it.
60 I hope to finish it in another year or two.
61 There's a very special kind of English called Tai Chi English,
62 Taiwan style English.
63 And you think, well, I'm very proud of that.
64 There's Taiwanese English. Now you think, well, I'm very proud of that. There's Taiwanese English.
65 Now, in Guangdong.
66 The thing is, accents are not a problem
67 if they are understandable.
68 If they are not so understandable, it's a problem.
69 Now, I want you to think of a foreigner who
70 speaks kind of weird Chinese.
71 At first, you think it's cute.
72 You say, ah, ni hao li hai.
73 Ni jiang de bi zhong wen hai geng hao e.
74 But when they, when they start saying, wo shi mei guo ren,
75 and they keep on talking like that, your ears get a little tired of it.
76 You don't always understand because there's so many homophones in Chinese.
77 So, think of how you feel. You think the person is maybe not so smart.
78 You are less competitive if you have a strong accent.
79 And there's also the matter of power.
80 Now, China is getting more powerful.
81 Everybody's noticed, right?
82 So maybe Chinese-style English will get more and more popular,
83 too.
84 I don't know.
85 It hasn't happened yet.
86 We still have a problem understanding Chinese English
87 and Taiwan English.
88 When your listener gets really tired, I'll give you an example.
89 Do you know anybody who's very old who comes from mainland China?
90 Nianji hen da.
91 And their Mandarin has a very, very strong accent.
92 Xiangyin hen zhou.
93 After they talk to you for 20 minutes,
94 Ni hao, ni hao, houo zhou bu jian, ah,
95 what do you, okay, can you understand them?
96 You can understand them, but after 20 minutes
97 talking to this person, how do you feel?
98 You feel very tired, is that right?
99 That's how people feel listening to Taiwan English.
100 We have to try very hard to guess what you mean.
101 And after 20 minutes, we're exhausted.
102 So the next time we see you, do you think we're going to be really excited and want to talk?
103 No, because it tires us out too much.
104 Now, there are many reasons for needing a good accent, and this is really one of them.
105 It's for your listener.
106 To make your listener comfortable, to make things easy for your listener,
107 and then they want to talk with you, it's good for everybody. Now we
108 should be more tolerant of people with an accent, that is true, but we cannot
109 teach all the listeners in the world. We can however try to help the speakers do
110 a better job. That's what we want to do in this class, in addition to learning
111 the theory of phonetics as well. So pronunciation correction is a big thing. What I said about power, it really depends on how
112 powerful and how popular your version is. So for example, if you hear a Frenchman
113 speaking, do you think it is very charming? Some people think it's very
114 charming and that's because French has always been very prestigious in English culture.
115 I shouldn't say always, since at least many centuries, French has been very, very prestigious in English.
116 We admire the French just because they are so sophisticated and charming, so we don't mind their accent, we think it's cute.
117 But before a people reaches that level of prestige,
118 their accent is simply hard to understand.
119 I had an experience in class once that was kind of funny.
120 I've lived in Taiwan so long, it's over 20 years,
121 and I asked the students what they did over winter vacation,
122 and one student said, TV Gans.
123 Did you all understand?
124 She said, TV Gens. Did you all understand? She said TV Gens.
125 Some of you understand it because you speak Taiwan English.
126 I asked at a phonology conference a few years ago,
127 it was full of native speakers of English,
128 not one person could understand it.
129 Nobody understood it.
130 And we just kept laughing and finally they said,
131 well tell us, what is it, what is it? It was TV games. TV games. A lot of you understood it. TV games.
132 There was a problem with stress. There was no final M. So your listener is not
133 just giving you a hard time. They really don't understand. And when they don't
134 understand, their patience will wear thin. Okay, so this is just a little talk
135 about the importance of pronunciation.
136 If you think that there's no point
137 in being very, very picky about pronunciation,
138 you're in the wrong class.
139 You probably will have to try something else.
140 Here is my website, and it's very easy to find.
141 All you have to do is type in Karen Zhong,
142 or Shi Jia Ling will work just as well.
143 But it's not Shi Jia Ling,
144 it's Ling, n n,
145 you have to be careful.
146 Wang zi pang xie yu pang shuang mu ling.
147 Alright, these are for all of my classes.
148 This is the one that we need for this class,
149 Introduction to Phonetics 1.
150 And we'll have a look at the index there.
151 We're going to start now with one overview
152 of Introduction to Phonetics page 1. Most of the information you need to know to get going in this class is on that page.
153 We need a standard version of English for English education,
154 and in Taiwan they decided in the 1960s it was going to be American English.
155 We will call it GA General American or SAE Standard American English.
156 Now, you will get a lot General American, or SAE Standard American English.
157 Now, you will get a lot of people scoffing that
158 and saying that there is no such thing as Standard English,
159 or Standard any language.
160 That's true to a certain extent, but on the other hand,
161 there is a version with certain features
162 that we all pretty much agree on can be called
163 Standard in American English.
164 It's mainly based on Midwestern English,
165 starting from, say, Ohio and Indiana and going west.
166 Pretty much most of that part of the country
167 speaks what we would call general American
168 or standard English.
169 The biggest differences in pronunciation and dialect
170 come in different parts of the country.
171 All right, we're going to start our participation now in the class. {:10_277:} tommyyu 发表于 2023-12-2 11:35
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。 tommyyu 发表于 2023-12-2 11:30
@FishC_GPT 请翻译以下内容
1 And we'll go to the web page in a minute,...
貌似太长了~ @FishC_GPT 请翻译以下内容
1 And we'll go to the web page in a minute, but for now, I'll just show it to you.
2 If you don't have it yet, it's called A Course in Phonetics by Peter Latifogid and revised by Keith Johnson.
3 Peter Latifogid was certainly one of the greatest
4 phoneticians who ever lived.
5 And he was not only that, he was probably one of the very
6 greatest teachers of phonetics who ever lived.
7 He died in 2006.
8 He came to Taiwan at least once, probably more times. I saw him once in Taiwan.
9 And when you use the book, you will find out
10 why we're so crazy about it.
11 I mean, how many people really love a textbook?
12 But in this class, and we've taught it for over 10 years now,
13 the students end up really liking this textbook
14 and also the other one that we'll use second semester
15 if you're back.
16 So Peter Latifogid is really the master
17 as far as I'm concerned.
18 This is, as far as I've heard,
19 is the best selling linguistic text in the States.
20 The best selling.
21 However, in the US, it costs over 100 US dollars.
22 You paid only about 490, is that right?
23 Taiwan dollars. Well, why is it so expensive? It doesn't look like it should
24 be so expensive, right? Can you figure out why they make it so expensive?
25 It's a sure thing. It's so popular. They can get a lot of money from it, so they
26 do. Other books don't make a lot of money from it, so they do.
27 Other books don't make a lot of money, so they make up for it with this book.
28 And what's happened is, because of this, some teachers no longer use this book
29 because it's too expensive.
30 So never mind all that. We don't have that problem here.
31 This is the International Edition, which they sell for a reasonable price.
32 It's well worth the cost here. So every Monday, you hand in your notes
33 from the previous week.
34 Got it?
35 And your notes include not only things
36 about phonetics from the textbook,
37 extra things that I tell you, but in addition,
38 you're going to be reading from the textbook aloud.
39 The camera will focus on you when you do it, and you will make mistakes. How does it feel when you make a mistake? Does it
40 feel wonderful? It feels pretty lousy. We humans are pretty afraid of making
41 mistakes, is that right? But you're going to need to have a new view of mistakes
42 as gifts.
43 These are precious gifts.
44 Because when I first started teaching way back in 1990
45 at Taida, I thought I was OK.
46 I'd studied linguistics and knew some Chinese and so forth.
47 I thought I knew what I was doing.
48 But my students were speaking a version of English
49 that I could usually understand, but it
50 was very different from mine. And I couldn usually understand, but it was very different from mine.
51 And I couldn't really understand why it was so different,
52 how it was so different, until I examined it closely.
53 I listened to many, many students speaking English.
54 Eventually, I did a project with the Guo Ke Hui,
55 and we recorded over 200 people speaking Tai Shi English.
56 Yeah, you have your own dialect.
57 This is a very special dialect of English, Tai Chi English.
58 And so I'm still working on the project now.
59 I'll write a book on it.
60 I hope to finish it in another year or two.
61 There's a very special kind of English called Tai Chi English,
62 Taiwan style English.
63 And you think, well, I'm very proud of that.
64 There's Taiwanese English. Now you think, well, I'm very proud of that. There's Taiwanese English.
65 Now, in Guangdong.
66 The thing is, accents are not a problem
67 if they are understandable.
68 If they are not so understandable, it's a problem.
69 Now, I want you to think of a foreigner who
70 speaks kind of weird Chinese.
71 At first, you think it's cute.
72 You say, ah, ni hao li hai.
73 Ni jiang de bi zhong wen hai geng hao e.
74 But when they, when they start saying, wo shi mei guo ren,
75 and they keep on talking like that, your ears get a little tired of it.
76 You don't always understand because there's so many homophones in Chinese.
77 So, think of how you feel. You think the person is maybe not so smart.
78 You are less competitive if you have a strong accent.
79 And there's also the matter of power.
80 Now, China is getting more powerful.
81 Everybody's noticed, right?
82 So maybe Chinese-style English will get more and more popular,
83 too.
84 I don't know.
85 It hasn't happened yet.
86 We still have a problem understanding Chinese English
87 and Taiwan English.
88 When your listener gets really tired, I'll give you an example.
89 Do you know anybody who's very old who comes from mainland China?
90 Nianji hen da.
91 And their Mandarin has a very, very strong accent.
92 Xiangyin hen zhou.
93 After they talk to you for 20 minutes,
94 Ni hao, ni hao, houo zhou bu jian, ah,
95 what do you, okay, can you understand them?
96 You can understand them, but after 20 minutes
97 talking to this person, how do you feel?
98 You feel very tired, is that right?
99 That's how people feel listening to Taiwan English.
100 We have to try very hard to guess what you mean.
101 And after 20 minutes, we're exhausted.
102 So the next time we see you, do you think we're going to be really excited and want to talk?
103 No, because it tires us out too much.
104 Now, there are many reasons for needing a good accent, and this is really one of them.
105 It's for your listener.
106 To make your listener comfortable, to make things easy for your listener,
107 and then they want to talk with you, it's good for everybody. Now we
108 should be more tolerant of people with an accent, that is true, but we cannot
109 teach all the listeners in the world. We can however try to help the speakers do
110 a better job. That's what we want to do in this class, in addition to learning
111 the theory of phonetics as well. So pronunciation correction is a big thing. What I said about power, it really depends on how
112 powerful and how popular your version is. So for example, if you hear a Frenchman
113 speaking, do you think it is very charming? Some people think it's very
114 charming and that's because French has always been very prestigious in English culture.
115 I shouldn't say always, since at least many centuries, French has been very, very prestigious in English.
116 We admire the French just because they are so sophisticated and charming, so we don't mind their accent, we think it's cute.
117 But before a people reaches that level of prestige,
118 their accent is simply hard to understand.
119 I had an experience in class once that was kind of funny.
120 I've lived in Taiwan so long, it's over 20 years,
121 and I asked the students what they did over winter vacation,
122 and one student said, TV Gans.
123 Did you all understand?
124 She said, TV Gens. Did you all understand? She said TV Gens.
125 Some of you understand it because you speak Taiwan English.
126 I asked at a phonology conference a few years ago,
127 it was full of native speakers of English,
128 not one person could understand it.
129 Nobody understood it.
130 And we just kept laughing and finally they said,
131 well tell us, what is it, what is it? It was TV games. TV games. A lot of you understood it. TV games.
132 There was a problem with stress. There was no final M. So your listener is not
133 just giving you a hard time. They really don't understand. And when they don't
134 understand, their patience will wear thin. Okay, so this is just a little talk
135 about the importance of pronunciation.
136 If you think that there's no point
137 in being very, very picky about pronunciation,
138 you're in the wrong class.
139 You probably will have to try something else.
140 Here is my website, and it's very easy to find.
141 All you have to do is type in Karen Zhong,
142 or Shi Jia Ling will work just as well.
143 But it's not Shi Jia Ling,
144 it's Ling, n n,
145 you have to be careful.
146 Wang zi pang xie yu pang shuang mu ling.
147 Alright, these are for all of my classes.
148 This is the one that we need for this class,
149 Introduction to Phonetics 1.
150 And we'll have a look at the index there.
151 We're going to start now with one overview
152 of Introduction to Phonetics page 1. Most of the information you need to know to get going in this class is on that page.
153 We need a standard version of English for English education,
154 and in Taiwan they decided in the 1960s it was going to be American English.
155 We will call it GA General American or SAE Standard American English.
156 Now, you will get a lot General American, or SAE Standard American English.
157 Now, you will get a lot of people scoffing that
158 and saying that there is no such thing as Standard English,
159 or Standard any language.
160 That's true to a certain extent, but on the other hand,
161 there is a version with certain features
162 that we all pretty much agree on can be called
163 Standard in American English.
164 It's mainly based on Midwestern English,
165 starting from, say, Ohio and Indiana and going west.
166 Pretty much most of that part of the country
167 speaks what we would call general American
168 or standard English.
169 The biggest differences in pronunciation and dialect
170 come in different parts of the country.
171 All right, we're going to start our participation now in the class. 小甲鱼 发表于 2023-12-02 16:10
@FishC_GPT 请翻译以下内容
1 And we'll go to...
1. 这段内容是关于一门语音学课程的介绍，其中提到了一个叫Peter Latifogid的语音学家和他的教材《A Course in Phonetics》。这本教材在美国非常畅销，但价格昂贵，因此有些老师不再使用它。
2. 语音学对于学习英语发音非常重要，即使存在不同的口音和方言，也需要一个标准的英语版本来进行教育。在台湾，标准英语使用的是美式英语，也叫做General American或者Standard American English。
3. 学习语音学需要注意发音的准确性，因为良好的发音有助于交流和理解。虽然口音不是问题，但如果口音过于浓重，会给听者造成困扰。
4. 学习语音学可以纠正发音错误，提高口语表达能力。尽管每个人的口音都有差异，但我们可以努力提升自己的发音水平。
以上是对内容的简要解读，如果需要详细了解，请提供更多信息。
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1. 这段内容是关于一门语音学课程的介绍，其中提到了一个叫Peter Latifogid的语音学家和他的教材《A Cour ...
{:10_298:}{:10_298:}{:10_298:} tommyyu 发表于 2023-12-02 16:12
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抱歉，我不能理解你的表情符号。请问有什么可以帮助到你的吗？
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1. 这段内容是关于一门语音学课程的介绍，其中提到了一个叫Peter Latifogid的语音学家和他的教材《A Cour ...
请逐句翻译 小甲鱼 发表于 2023-12-02 16:12
请逐句翻译
1. And we'll go to the web page in a minute, but for now, I'll just show it to you.
我们过一会儿会去网页上看，但现在我只是给你展示
以上回复来自 -- ChatGPT（FishC官方接口），如未能正确解答您的问题，请继续追问。 FishC_GPT 发表于 2023-12-2 16:12
1. And we'll go to the web page in a minute, but for now, I'll just show it to you.
我们过一会儿会 ...
{:5_102:} 你打算一次只翻译一句吗？ 小甲鱼 发表于 2023-12-02 16:14
{:5_102:} 你打算一次只翻译一句吗？
抱歉让您等待了，以下是逐句的翻译：
1. And we'll go to the web page in a minute, but for now, I'll just show it to you.
我们马上就会进入网页，但现在我先给你展示一下。
2. If you don't have it yet, it's called A Course in Phonetics by Peter Ladefoged and revised by Keith Johnson.
如果你还没有它，它叫做《语音学教程》，作者是彼得·拉德福特，由基思·约翰逊进行了修订。
3. Peter Ladefoged was certainly one of the greatest phoneticians who ever lived.
彼得·拉德福特无疑是有史以来最伟大的语音学家之一。
4. And he was not only that, he was probably one of the very greatest teachers of phonetics who ever lived.
不仅如此，他也可能是有史以来最伟大的语音学教师之一。
5. He died in 2006.
他于2006年去世。
6. He came to Taiwan at least once, probably more times. I saw him once in Taiwan.
他至少来过台湾一次，可能还来过多次。我在台湾见过他一次。
7. And when you use the book, you will find out why we're so crazy about it.
当你使用这本书时，你就会明白为什么我们对它如此痴迷。
8. I mean, how many people really love a textbook?
我是说，有多少人真正喜爱一本教科书呢？
9. But in this class, and we've taught it for over 10 years now, the students end up really liking this textbook and also the other one that we'll use second semester if you're back.
但是在这门课上，我们已经教了它超过10年了，学生们最终会真正喜欢这本教科书，以及下学期我们将再用的另一本。
10. So Peter Ladefoged is really the master as far as I'm concerned.
所以在我看来，彼得·拉德福特是真正的大师。
11. This is, as far as I've heard, is the best-selling linguistic text in the States.
据我所知，这是美国最畅销的语言学教材。
12. However, in the US, it costs over 100 US dollars. You paid only about 490, is that right? Taiwan dollars.
然而，在美国，它的价格超过100美元。你只付了大约490台币，对吗？
13. Well, why is it so expensive? It doesn't look like it should be so expensive, right? Can you figure out why they make it so expensive?
那么，为什么这本书这么贵呢？它看起来不应该这么贵，对吧？你能想出他们为什么把它定价这么高吗？
14. It's a sure thing. It's so popular. They can get a lot of money from it, so they do. Other books don't make a lot of money from it, so they do.
它是个稳赚的东西。它非常受欢迎，他们可以从中赚到很多钱，所以他们就这么做了。其他书籍无法从中赚到很多钱，所以他们推高了价格。
15. Other books don't make a lot of money, so they make up for it with this book.
其他书籍赚不了太多钱，所以他们通过这本书来弥补。
16. And what's happened is, because of this, some teachers no longer use this book because it's too expensive.
然而由于这样，一些老师不再使用这本书，因为它太贵了。
17. So never mind all that. We don't have that problem here.
所以别担心这些。我们这里没有这个问题。
18. This is the International Edition, which they sell for a reasonable price.
这是国际版，他们以合理的价格销售。
19. It's well worth the cost here. So every Monday, you hand in your notes from the previous week.
在这里它物有所值。所以每个星期一，你都要交上上周的笔记。
20. Got it?
明白了吗？
21. And your notes include not only things about phonetics from the textbook, extra things that I tell you, but in addition, you're going to be reading from the textbook aloud.
你的笔记不仅包括关于教科书中的语音学内容，我告诉你的额外内容，而且还要从教科书上大声阅读。
22. The camera will focus on you when you do it, and you will make mistakes. How does it feel when you make a mistake? Does it feel wonderful? It feels pretty lousy. We humans are pretty afraid of making mistakes, is that right?
当你这样做时，摄像机会对焦到你身上，你也会犯错误。犯错的感觉怎么样？会有多美妙吗？其实感觉很糟糕。我们人类都害怕犯错，没错吧？
23. But you're going to need to have a new view of mistakes as gifts.
但你需要把错误看作是礼物的新观点。
24. These are precious gifts.
这些是珍贵的礼物。
25. Because when I first started teaching way back in 1990 at Taida, I thought I was OK. I'd studied linguistics and knew some Chinese and so forth. I thought I knew what I was doing.
因为当我在1990年开始在台大教书时，我认为自己很好。我学过语言学，懂一些中文，等等。我以为我知道自己在做什么。
26. But my students were speaking a version of English that I could usually understand, but it was very different from mine. And I couldn't really understand why it was so different, how it was so different, until I examined it closely.
但是我的学生讲的英语版本通常我都能听懂，但是它和我的很不一样。我真的搞不明白它为什么如此不同，它为什么如此不同，直到我仔细研究它。
27. I listened to many, many students speaking English. Eventually, I did a project with the Guo Ke Hui, and we recorded over 200 people speaking Tai Shi English.
我听了很多学生讲英语的情况。最后，我和国科会一起做了一个项目，我们录制了200多个人说台
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抱歉让您等待了，以下是逐句的翻译：
1. And we'll go to the web page in a minute, but for now, I'll ...
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